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Biblical Perspicuity
Stevens' Response to Gentry: Biblical Perspicuity
[Response To Gentry's Analysis of the Full Preterist
View...]
[GENTRY] Second, hyper-preterism has serious implications for the perspicuity of
Scripture. This viewpoint not only has implications for the later creeds, but for the
instructional abilities of the apostles: no one in church history knew the major issues of
which they spoke - until very recently! Are the Scriptures that impenetrable on an issue
of that significance?
Second. I cant believe Im reading these words from the pen of a
Reconstructionist who claims to be a preterist. Gentry has taken some very preterist
positions on many of the eschatological passages in his writings against the
dispensationalists, and in his presentations at the 1993 Covenant Eschatology Symposium.
After reading and listening to his many eloquent and thorough defenses of preterism, it
seems strange to read what he says here. His statements under point number two seem to
unravel the great preterist statements he has made elsewhere. Why is he laboring so hard
to leave the impression that there is a huge difference between his partial preterist
position and the full preterist view? Hes only discrediting his own fine defenses of
the preterist view elsewhere.
The perspicuity (clarity) of Scripture and the instructional abilities of the apostles
are not jeopardized by the full preterist view, any more than they are threatened by
Gentrys partial preterist view. Gentry asks, Are the Scriptures that
impenetrable on an issue of that significance? The same argument could be levied
against his early date for Revelation and his near full preterist interpretation of the
Apocalypse. In fact, I think arguments like that were raised against Gentry in
Orlando by some of the other non-preterist theologians there. If Scripture is so clear,
why arent children seminary professors? Why do we even need seminaries at all? And
why dont all seminary professors and theologians agree on eschatology if it is so
clear? If the early church had such a perfect understanding of it, why havent more
Christians down through the ages taken Gentrys position regarding the book of
Revelation? Why does he need to write a whole book in defense of the early date of
Revelation, and another whole book defending his postmil view, if Scripture is so clear
about eschatology and the church understood it so perfectly from the beginning? Gentry
needs to answer his own question. It applies to him just as much as it does to any other
preterist. It should be obvious to all that eschatology is one of those Biblical subjects
which Apostle Peter said is hard to understand (2 Pet. 3:16).
I do not know any full preterists who affirm that the early church understood
everything perfectly, but we certainly would agree that the church received a perfect
revelation. There was really no excuse for them not to understand it. But, as many experts
in patristic studies can attest, the early church did not understand the TIME and NATURE
of fulfillment of eschatology very well. They kept on repeating the imminency ideas until
the middle of the second century until it finally was no longer possible to conceive of
themselves as a part of this generation. Whether you are a preterist or a
futurist, this continuation of the imminency idea is embarrassing and destructive to the
churchs integrity as interpreters. For the preterist it is only somewhat puzzling,
but for the futurist it is fatal. If Jesus and the apostles taught imminency (as in fact
they did), then a non-fulfillment destroys the inspiration and integrity of Christ and the
apostles. However, if it was fulfilled and the church only failed to understand it, then
we can charge the mistake to non-inspired churchmen and leave the integrity of Christ and
the apostles intact. As R. C. Sproul and others have well noted, this is where the lines
for the looming war over the integrity of the Bible are being drawn. And it is the real
dilemma the futurist faces. The full preterist view has already solved it, and it is the
only view which can solve it consistently and still preserve Biblical integrity.
Joseph M. Canfield (in his separate response to Gentry) has pointed out a similar
threat to the integrity of Jesus and the Apostles coming from an Islamic author, Jabril
Muhammed (The Final Call Sept. 8, 1996, Is The Pope The True
Representative of Jesus p. 27):
More dangerous is the statement of Jabril Muhammed, a current Mohammedan writer who
says that the plain words of Jesus called for a First Century return. He follows most
unbelieving interpreters in holding that since no Return occurred, then Jesus was
mistaken. But he takes this a step farther and says that Jesus alleged mistake
proves that Mohammed is greater than Jesus. As we are faced with an upsurge of Islam, the
statement is conveniently ignored by Futurists. How would Gentry answer Jabril Muhammed?
The ignorance of the early church is certainly surprising, but not unexplainable or
overwhelming. What will unravel Christian Faith is to see the imminency being
unequivocally taught by Christ and the apostles, but then believe (like Albert Schweitzer
and Bertrand Russell) that they were mistaken. That is exactly what all futurist and
partial preterist views are ultimately forced to conclude. Which would you rather
believe that Jesus and the apostles were mistaken, or that the early church
misunderstood and misinterpreted the TIME and NATURE of fulfillment? Why are we so quick
to defend the integrity of the creeds, while leaving the inspiration of Christ and the
apostles defenseless? This is invalidating the Word of God for the sake of our
tradition (Mk. 7:13), just like the Pharisees were doing with their rabbinical
traditions. I do not apologize for saying that the early (post-70) apostolic fathers
misunderstood biblical eschatology, especially when the only alternative is to strip
Christ and the apostles of their inspiration and integrity. One of the two groups was in
serious error. There is no way to preserve the integrity of both groups. Liberal,
skeptical and anti-Christian scholars have left no alternative for the conservative
Christian. A mistake has to be charged to either Jesus and the inspired NT writers, or to
the uninspired church fathers who interpreted them. Full preterists have made the only
choice that consistently preserves the integrity of our faith. Gentry seems to be taking
the other alternative by paying homage to the creeds.
See the Tenth section of this response where we show Gentrys inconsistency in
splitting the imminency and coming statements in Matthew 24. His weakness
and vulnerability to the liberal attack is more obvious there.
All branches of Christendom (except maybe those who worship the creeds) recognize that
our understanding of Scripture is getting progressively better. We did not start out with
a perfect understanding. We instead started out with a perfect revelation, but a
very imperfect understanding of it. One implication of a progressive understanding
is that older concepts will be found slightly or largely in error, requiring adjustment or
replacement by the better understanding. Note what Iain Murray (1977) said about John
Murray in the Preface to Vol. 2 of the Collected Writings of John Murray:
...this is not to say that [John Murray] thought Reformed theology had reached
definitive conclusions on all biblical subjects. On the contrary, he judged it to be the
constant business of the Church to seek a larger knowledge of Scripture for, as he
writes in a characteristic sentence, We are but touching the fringes of the mystery
of Gods will... [emphasis added]
Those who tend to hold the creeds as authoritative and inspired will be the first to
raise the red flag when their long-held traditional interpretations and
applications are questioned. Philip Schaff, who composed the three-volume work, The
Creeds of Christendom, had these relevant comments about that behavior (Vol. I, p. 7):
In the Protestant system, the authority of symbols, as of all human
compositions, is relative and limited. It is not co-ordinate with, but
always subordinate to, the Bible, as the only infallible rule of the Christian
faith and practice. The value of creeds depends upon the measure of their agreement
with the Scriptures. In the best case a human creed is only an approximate and relatively
correct exposition of revealed truth, and may be improved by the progressive
knowledge of the Church, while the Bible remains perfect and infallible. ...Any higher
view of the authority of symbols is unprotestant and essentially Romanizing. Symbololatry
is a species of idolatry, and substitutes the tyranny of a printed book for that of a
living pope. [emphasis added]
Note the words of Schaff in the quote above: In the best case a human creed is
only an approximate and relatively correct exposition of revealed truth, and may be
improved by the progressive knowledge of the Church. I suspect Philip Schaff is a
little more qualified in the area of patristics than Gentry (and some other creedalists I
know who will be reading this), and consequently in a better position to know what the
limitations of the creeds are and how to improve them. However, creedalists will still be
horrified at Schaffs suggestion that the creeds are only relatively
correct and may require improvements after the church has made progress in its
understanding. I suspect they will also take offense at his suggestion that, Any
higher view of the authority of symbols is unprotestant and essentially Romanizing.
And, lest any creedalist think Schaff fails to understand the true nature of
Romanizing, he explains how creed-olatry and pope-olatry are similar:
Symbololatry is a species of idolatry, and substitutes the tyranny of a printed book
for that of a living pope. They are both idolatry. I believe Schaff has clearly
reflected the true spirit of the Reformations sola Scriptura battle cry.
Gentry seems to be speaking otherwise.
At least three times in the first chapter of volume one (of Schaffs three-volume
work on the Creeds), he mentions the idea of growth and development in our understanding
of the Christian faith, and constantly warns about the dangers of esteeming creeds above
the Word of God. As I stated in my debate with Joseph Balyeat in Kingdom Counsel,
if someone is really satisfied with judging the merits of the full preterist position by
Scripture alone, he wont need to use the creeds against it. He will only bring the
creeds into the picture if he presumes that the creeds are flawless (inspired) and
therefore authoritative. If there was the slightest doubt about the correctness of the
creeds, he would not use them as a standard.
There is an infinite difference between the creeds and Scripture. Scripture is
inspired, and therefore infallible. Creeds are not inspired, so they can be mistaken, and
always have to be held in some measure of suspicion. If I didnt attach significant
value to the creeds, I would have given Gentrys whole objection here the quick brush
off. But, they are more valuable than most other historical documents of uninspired human
origin because they give us a window to view what the understanding of the church was at
the time of their composition, and because they were formulated by so many brilliant minds
over the course of several centuries of debate and discussion. But their main value is in
the areas of theology that they were working on at the time (mainly Christology). They did
little (if any) work on the eschatological statements in the creeds. And we must never
forget that some of those same people formulated other doctrines and practices that have
since been found to be in error, and went to extremes in dealing out cruel punishments
upon those who disagreed with them. They condemned and killed men and women whom we now
know to have been saints. This should be cause for pause before we enshrine these
mens opinions on a level with or above Scripture.
Some creedalists with whom I exchanged email stated that this whole issue of creedal
orthodoxy is a matter of authority. I agree with them. I would go even further to assert
that ultimate authority is bound up with inspiration and infallibility. Nothing can be
ultimately authoritative unless it is infallible and inspired. The Roman Church knows this
and thats why they had to develop the doctrine of the infallibility (inspiration) of
the Pope. The creedalists are doing the same thing with the councils and creeds. They have
to vest infallibility and inspiration into the creeds in order to use them as an ultimate
authority. Authority and inspiration go together. If the men who composed the councils
were not inspired in the same way Scripture writers were, then their products (the creeds)
have no more authority than any other writings of uninspired men. More value? Yes! More
authority? No!
It is Gentry and other creedalists who are running counter to the principle of
continual reform by locking us up with their creeds. It is time for another wave of
Reformation to break out of that prison cell. And the preterist interpretation of
eschatology has just provided the key to unlock the door of continuing reform. If Gentry
and other theonomists really want to be on the cutting edge of the continuing Reformation,
here is their chance. The partial preterist view just wont cut it when the skeptic
critics of the Bible fire their laser cannons at the integrity of the imminent coming
passages. Only the full preterist view can provide the consistent basis upon which to
build a conservative and thoroughly Reformed systematic eschatology. Opportunities like
this dont come around every century, perhaps not even every millennium. Dont
miss it. Dont trade your reformed and always reforming birthright for a
mess of creedolatry pottage.
Every generation of Christians must be perceptive and vigilant. We can never assume
that any uninspired document or system of theology is perfect. The possibility
always exists that further study will reveal a flaw. When a builder discovers a flaw in
his construction, what should he do? Cover it over, pretend like it isnt there, and
hope no one gets hurt when the building collapses later! Or, stick our heads in the sand
and hope the critics go away! Killing the messenger wont make the bad news go away!
The battle is already being fought. Albert Schweitzer and others of his liberal critical
armada have already fired their cannons. Traditional futurist eschatology is not only
failing to fight back, but is manufacturing more ammunition for the opposition to use
against the integrity of Scripture. They insist the imminency passages can mean anything
we want them to mean, except imminency). The liberals just smile and load it
in their cannon and fire another round. A partial preterist position does not solve the
problem. The dilemma remains. How long will Gentry and other partial preterists hesitate
between two opinions on this (1 Kings 18:21)? Whose side are they really on? Quit helping
the faithless critics!
Surely Gentry has an uneasy feeling about using creedal arguments against the full
preterist view, since he has elsewhere come down solidly in favor of sola Scriptura.
In his book, HSHD (top of p. 494), he said the following to counter the
premillennialist arguments against his partial preterist views: For the devout
Christian, the ultimate issue determining the validity of a particular eschatological
system is none other than the Word of the Living God. All of us can say
Amen to that. But, does Gentry really mean it? If so, why does he use the
creeds and patristic testimony as his first line of argumentation here? From reading his
statements against the premillennialists, we would have expected him to focus on the
biblical arguments first, fully and finally. Why the inconsistency?
In regard to the instructional abilities of the apostles, I have always wondered
exactly what Peter meant in 2 Pet. 3:16 when he said that some of Pauls
eschatological teaching was hard to understand. The Jews missed both the
soteriological and eschatological meaning of the OT Scriptures. They are still looking for
a physical-literal fulfillment, even though Christ repeatedly said His kingdom was not of
this world (Jn. 18:36) and was to come in that generation without observation
(Lk. 17:20-21). In the gospel accounts where Jesus was explaining the meaning of the
parables to the twelve, did you ever notice that the apostles were very often dull
of hearing? The twelve still didnt really believe Christ would rise from the
dead. When Jesus was crucified, they thought it was all over. If it was difficult for
someone who had been personally taught by Christ to understand, why should we be surprised
that the average Christian missed it? It was not the fault of the inspired, accurate and
complete revelation. It was the fault of the uninspired interpreters who did not expend
enough perspiration to understand inspiration. When did the saints ever understand
Gods revelation completely? Do we understand it completely even today? Or has God so
worked in His revelation that it will forever challenge (and humble) even the greatest
minds in the church? Certainly, the saving essentials are simple enough for a child to
understand, but all the subtle nuances of biblical typology may never be exhaustively
unveiled even though mankind has an eternity to interpret it. As John Murray often said
about our present state of understanding, We are but touching the fringes of the
mystery of Gods will. So why is Gentry so shocked that the church missed some
things?
If we dont believe we can make progress in our understanding of Gods Word,
why are we constantly trying to refine our hermeneutics (interpretative skills)? If the
early church really solved all the enigmas, exegeted faithfully all the biblical
doctrines, and infallibly formulated all the creeds, why bother reforming or
reconstructing anything? What was the Reformation all about? Why bother always
reforming if there is nothing else left to be reformed? Why spill so much blood and
ink if it was all infallibly set in stone from the creedal era? Why not just take what the
early church has given us (sacerdotalism, Maryolatry and all) and just stick with it? Have
Gentrys books made any improvement upon the early churchs understanding of
eschatology? Or is he just regurgitating what the historic church always and
everywhere believed? Why bother writing any more books if there is no possibility of
improving our understanding?
[GENTRY] Clement of Rome lived through A.D. 70 and had no idea he was
resurrected! He continued to look for a physical resurrection (Clement 50:3). Jude's
(supposed) grandsons still sought a physical resurrection (cf. Eusebius, EH 3:24:4).
Whoever these men were, they come right out of the first generation and in the land of
Israel - with absolutely no inkling of an A.D. 70 resurrection or a past Second Advent.
See also the Didache 10:5; 16:1ff (first century); Ignatius, Trallians 9:2; Smyrnaens 2:1;
6:1; Letter to Polycarp 3:2 (early second century); Polycarp 2:1; 6:2; 7:1. See also
Papias, Irenaeus, Justin Martyr.
Gentry cites several patristic writers in defense of his futurist position, leaving the
impression that no early writers made any significant preterist statements, and that early
writers were mostly futurist in orientation. It is quite surprising to see Gentry do this,
especially in view of the other great quotes of patristic writers in his books in defense
of the preterist view of Revelation. For example, see his BJF (pp. 41-109, 343-353)
and The Beast of Revelation (pp. 129-166). Which list of patristic citations
does Gentry want us to use? Is there support for the preterist view in the patristic
writings or not? Does Gentry really believe that the preterist view implies that no
one in church history knew the major issues of which they spoke - until very
recently? If he does, why does he take a basic preterist approach to so many
passages that the historic church did not? Gentry needs to make up his mind. He is arguing
against his own position here. The historic creeds did not teach some kind of
judgment coming at AD 70 like Gentry. It is amazing to see Gentry use Papias,
Irenaeus and Justin Martyr here as evidence against the preterist view, when
in his other writings against the premillennialists, he repudiates their value as
witnesses, and even uses some of them to buttress his own partial preterist view. There
seems to be a little doublespeak going on here. Whose side is Gentry really
on? He keeps manufacturing ammunition for the skeptical opposition!
David Chiltons Paradise Restored has some excellent quotes from patristic
writers which support the preterist viewpoint. And my two articles on the creeds
(mentioned above) quote several more, as well as some of the leading patristic scholars
who show what the early church really believed about eschatology. They didnt
understand the full implications of AD 70 any more than they understood any of the other
systematized views which we moderns have formulated, including Gentrys own views.
And if we have to have clear and universal patristic support for our position before it
can be seriously considered, Gentrys own views would be just as disqualified. Who
says we have to have any patristic support for a doctrine that can be proven from
Scripture? What was the whole point of the Reformers stand on sola Scriptura?
Gentry makes a big deal here about Clement of Rome and others, whose lifespans
overlapped the destruction of Jerusalem in AD 70. Clement supposedly wrote his epistle to
the Corinthian church about AD 96. I will quote the section Gentry makes reference to
(50:3) with the Scripture references Clement alludes to inserted in brackets:
All the generations from Adam even unto this day have passed away; but those who,
through the grace of God, have been made perfect [1 Cor. 13:10] in love, now possess a
place [John 14:3] among the godly, and shall be made manifest [Rom. 8:19; 1 Cor. 1:7,8;
Col. 3:4; 1 Pet. 1:3-9; 1 Jn. 3:2] at the visitation of the kingdom of Christ.
For it is written, Enter into thy secret chambers for a little time, until my wrath
and fury pass away; and I will remember a propitious day, and will raise you up out of
your graves. [Isa. 26; Ezek. 37]
Note that this passage does not use the words physical resurrection, but
even if we agreed with Gentry that Clement was referring to a physical
resurrection, that would not remove all the other embarrassing problems in this
text. Does Gentry really accept all the other interpretations and applications
of Clement here? In the context around this quotation, Clement is talking about
Pauls discourse on love (1 Cor. 13). Notice the flip-flop between realized
(already) events and imminent future (not yet) events. Clement
leaves the impression that the perfect had already come and that the eternal
dwelling place (which Jesus said would be given at His return) had already
been given to those who had already been made perfect. But Clement was still
expecting the (imminent, i.e. a little time) arrival of the kingdom of Christ.
The propitious day of the kingdoms arrival and their resurrection was
imminent (only a little time away). Gentry says that when there are imminent
time indicators in a passage, they mean imminence. So what was the
resurrection that was imminent to Clement? Was it really imminent? Did Clement goof? I
suspect Gentry would not agree with all of Clements interpretations here in this one
brief text, much less with all the other ones in the rest of Clements writings and
the other early writers he cites. Does Clement really carry any weight with Gentry? Would
he agree with what Papias, Irenaeus, Justin Martyr and the other apostolic fathers say
about the book of Revelation and its late date? Absolutely not! In BJF Gentry
spends a whole chapter discounting Irenaeus value as evidence. Why then is he using
them against the preterist view? It looks like he is shooting himself in the foot again.
Im sure his premillennial opponents will love the nice things he says about the
apostolic fathers.
Before we leave Clement, I must deal with his interpretation of the resurrection. He
quotes or alludes to several ideas found in Isa. 26, Ezek. 37 and other OT resurrection
texts. Clement says God will raise you up out of your graves. The passage here
could easily be taken in the same collective national sense as Ezek. 37s restoration
from Babylonian captivity, or may simply be speaking of the eschatological regathering of
all those who were dead in sin back to life in the kingdom of God, the true
Israel. There is more than one way to interpret the language here. Gentry and other
futurists have made some assumptions about this text that are clearly unwarranted,
especially in view of the fact that Gentry admits (in his point four) that Scripture
speaks of more than one type of resurrection, and mentions Ezek. 37 as a case in point.
What is also interesting is that Ezek. 37:12f even mentions the nation of Israel coming up
out of their graves (captivity) and being restored to the land of Israel. This
resurrection was Israels return from Babylonian captivity under Ezra and Nehemiah in
536 BC and following. Was it a literal physical resurrection of physically dead Jews out
of physical graves? No, of course not. Gentry would agree that it is speaking of their
restoration from captivity. Even if Clement was expecting a physical resurrection, he was
alluding to passages that were not teaching a physical resurrection. So, Clement was wrong
not only in his interpretation of the TIMING of the eschatological events, but also of
their NATURE of fulfillment as well. The same can be said for most (if not all) of the
patristic writers Gentry lists here. No Christian should jump for joy as we realize how
mistaken the early church was in their understanding of the time and nature of
eschatological fulfillments. But, we shouldnt hesitate too long in admitting their
failure and correcting them, however, since the only alternative is to charge the mistake
to Jesus and the apostles. Which of these two alternatives does Gentry pick? Is he going
to keep manufacturing ammunition for the liberals, skeptics, and anti-Christian critics?
[GENTRY] Berkouwer rightly notes that the reason the resurrection found early
creedal acceptance was because of the clear emphasis of the New Testament. The
hyper-preterist view has serious and embarrassing implications for the perspicuity of
Scripture - and despite the fact we are now (supposedly) in our resurrected states and
have the outpoured Holy Spirit and His gift of teachers who were to protect us from every
wind of doctrine (Eph. 4)!
There are several misunderstandings wrapped up in Gentrys remarks above. When he
cites Berkouwer in defense of the idea that the resurrection found early creedal
acceptance, he builds a straw man argument. He leaves the impression that full
preterists deny the biblical (and creedal) doctrine of a collective resurrection. We
dont. It is a biblical eschatological event. Anyone who denies it has definitely put
himself outside biblical orthodoxy. Full preterists believe the Bible teaches that a
collective resurrection would occur. We just disagree with traditional
interpretations and applications of the TIME and NATURE of that resurrection.
Gentry assumes that there is only one way to interpret the NATURE of fulfillment of the
resurrection (i.e. that it can only be a physical resuscitation of the individuals
physical body and its physical exit from the grave). On the basis of that assumption, he
interprets the TIME of fulfillment as still future (since there is no record of anything
like that occurring at AD 70). What if his presuppositions about the NATURE of fulfillment
are incorrect? That would invalidate his assumptions about the TIME of fulfillment as
well. If we must hold rigidly to traditional interpretations about the time and nature of
fulfillment, Gentry himself would be in trouble with his Reformed predecessors, most of
whom believed the Roman church is the harlot of Revelation and that the pope is the Beast.
Does Gentry have freedom to interpret the time and nature of fulfillment of those
eschatological events differently than the Roman church or the Reformed churches? Is he
the only one who has that freedom? If the Bible speaks so clearly on this subject that no
other interpretations of the nature and time of fulfillment are possible, why is there so
much disagreement about the book of Revelation among the various millennial camps? Is
Gentry going to affirm that all other interpretations of the book of Revelation besides
his are heterodox (outside the creedal orthodoxy of Christianity), and that
his view (which is comparatively new also) is the only orthodox one? I would like to have
seen the reaction of the other Reformed theologians present at the Symposium in Orlando
(1993) if he had affirmed such a position in their hearing. It would indeed have been one
of those occasions when all heaven broke loose. Since I will be dealing much
more with the resurrection in later sections, I will not say any more about it here.
What I find interesting in Gentrys statements here, is that he seems to leave
himself hopelessly vulnerable to the charismatics arguments for a continuation of
the miraculous sign gifts, when he says that we today still have the outpoured Holy
Spirit and His gift of teachers. Full preterists dont believe that. This is
another one of those areas where Gentry radically misunderstands what we full preterists
are saying. Charismatics will love him for his statements here, and take him right to Acts
2:17-21 to show that the charismatic gifts would be poured out in the last
days up until the great and glorious day of the Lord. Then they would go
to 1 Cor. 1:5-8 to show him that the saints would not be lacking in any
gift as they eagerly awaited the revelation of our Lord Jesus Christ and
the end and the day of our Lord Jesus Christ. Gentry fails to show
why this latter passage could not be speaking about the return of Christ. The charismatics
will keep stabbing him with it until he gets the point. If Christs return (the one
mentioned in 1 Cor. 1:5-8) has not happened yet, then the charismata must still be around.
Gentry has written a book against Wayne Grudems views explaining why he believes the
charismata ceased in the first century, but it did not explain away the problem raised by
this passage (1 Cor. 1:5-8). The full preterist can consistently affirm an AD 70 cessation
based on these three texts (Acts 2:17ff; 1 Cor. 1:5-8; 1 Cor. 13:8ff). If Gentry
does not take a preterist approach to these passages, he leaves himself defenseless
against the charismatic view. But if he does take a preterist approach here, his
statement that we still have the outpoured Holy Spirit and His gift of
teachers seems inconsistent and contradictory.
Is the Holy Spirit still functioning as a Paraclete? Has the Paraclete ceased giving
those miraculous gifts? They were not supposed to cease until the revelation of our
Lord Jesus Christ at the End and the Day of our Lord Jesus
Christ. (1 Cor. 1:7f) Will Gentry affirm that the revelation of our Lord Jesus
Christ has already occurred at AD 70 (as he implies in his commentary on the book of
Revelation). If not, then his whole book against Wayne Grudems views falls flat on
its face in hopeless inconsistency. Gentry also leaves the door wide open for a loosing of
Satan at the end of the millennium (which he believes is still future), which implies a
resumption of demon-possession and lying signs and wonders. This would necessitate the
resumption of the Paracletes distribution of charismatic gifts to counteract
Satans activity. It is not surprising that many premillennial dispensationalists who
believe the end of the world is imminent, also believe Satan has been released and the
charismata are back in full force. Gentry has no consistent way to counter this argument
for the fresh outbreak of the charismata at the end of the millennium. And since he
believes Christs major coming after the millennium is still future, he must believe
in either the continuance of the charismata until that final return, or the resumption of
them at the release of Satan at the end of the millennium. And if the Paraclete is not
done with His work yet (which included inspired revelatory work), Gentry is put in the
unenviable position of believing the revelation, confirmation and consummation of
redemption is not yet complete. This would open the canon of Scripture and unseat Christ
as the ultimate in redemption.
Gentry says the charismatic gifts ceased and that the perfect (or fullness) arrived in
the first century, and that the transition period is over. But, as the charismatics are
very quick and fond of pointing out, it is inconsistent to say the perfect has arrived and
the transition period is over, if the eschatology is not also consummated. The charismatic
gifts and the transitional state of partialness would not cease until the
apocalupsis of Christ and The Day of Christ arrived (1 Cor.
1:7,8). The cessation is tied directly to the consummation. If the cessation has occurred
(as Gentry affirms), then the consummation of eschatology must also have occurred. If the
transition period for Pneumatology is over, the transition period of eschatology must also
be over. If the consummation has not yet occurred, the charismata have to still be around.
The constantly reiterated NT theme of an imminent completion of the transition from a
state of partial-ness to one of completeness (maturity or perfection) is shared in common
by soteriology, Pneumatology and eschatology. This common thread of somewhat
already, not yet everything, but imminent consummation of all three of these
theological systems is the worldview of the NT. Schweitzer, Dodd, Cullmann and
others have noted this. Pauls writings especially show that all three of these
theological systems (soteriology, Pneumatology and eschatology) were inseparably
interconnected and were being brought to consummation together in that transitional
generation. Non-charismatic Reformers only see the past fulfillment of soteriology and
Pneumatology. Their eschatological consummation is still futurized. Charismatics agree
that soteriology is fulfilled, but see Pneumatology and eschatology fulfillments as still
future. But full preterists see all three as inseparably interrelated, and by necessity
consummated together at AD 70. Because Gentry has a partially realized eschatology, he
should also have a charismatic Pneumatology and a partially realized soteriology to be
consistent. The charismatic gifts have not ceased unless Christ has returned for his final
time. Gentry needs to get consistent on this.
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